mcconnell stumbled on this because the ground changed here. i believe debt ceiling will be part of the agreement and i'll frankly our republican colleagues have learned that to say the government will not pay its debts and hold it up for something else is bad substance, and bad politics. i don't think they'll prevail on that. if they want to say, we won't raise the debt ceiling unless you cut medicare, make our day. >> chris: meaning, go ahead and default the country? >> no, make or day, meaning, that position is untenable politically and it will not last. you will not be able to hold it. >> chris: a little time left and i want to go to a couple of other subjects. senator schumer on the first day of the next congress in january, will democrats change the rules on filibusters by a simple majority, rather than the 2/3 majority you generally need, to change rules in the senate? >> okay. everyone knows the senate is broken and needs fixing. i think bob corker would say that, we have had discussions. we're friends. most democrats -- almost all demo